"Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
> Hello there
> I have a group which is set to accept messages from "Authenticated users
> only" and only from company users (domain users).
> Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.  It works
> fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is successful
> in
> sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding email to
> its
> members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
> authentication
> and same user can work with individual account.
> Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR but don't
> why it is being generated.
>
> Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get it
> working.
>
> Thanks

"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> What do you mean that it's successful sending to the group but it doesn't go
> to the members?  A group doesn't have a mailbox; there's nowhere for the
> message to go except to the group members.  If you send to a group but it
> doesn't get to the members, then it wasn't successful.  Apparently the
> application is not authenticating properly, or with an account that's
> authorized to send to the group.
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..
>
> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
> > Hello there
> > I have a group which is set to accept messages from "Authenticated users
> > only" and only from company users (domain users).
> > Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.  It works
> > fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is successful
> > in
> > sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding email to
> > its
> > members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
> > authentication
> > and same user can work with individual account.
> > Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR but don't
> > why it is being generated.
> >
> > Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get it
> > working.
> >
> > Thanks
>
>

"Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8AC12A9E-3FF0-4332-8AA1-7841821951B4@microsoft.com...
> Yes you are right that the mailbox doesn't have mailbox.  I am saying on
> the
> basis that Message tracking system does register the incoming email and
> then
> generate NDR.
>
> My application works fine with indivisual users but just doesn't with
> groups
> of those restrictions.  If I take the restrictions off then it works too.
> So
> it got to be something with "authenticated users only" restriction.
>
> I hope I have answered your question.
>
> Any other ideas
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> What do you mean that it's successful sending to the group but it doesn't
>> go
>> to the members?  A group doesn't have a mailbox; there's nowhere for the
>> message to go except to the group members.  If you send to a group but it
>> doesn't get to the members, then it wasn't successful.  Apparently the
>> application is not authenticating properly, or with an account that's
>> authorized to send to the group.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley MVP
>> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
>> ..
>>
>> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello there
>> > I have a group which is set to accept messages from "Authenticated
>> > users
>> > only" and only from company users (domain users).
>> > Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.  It
>> > works
>> > fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is
>> > successful
>> > in
>> > sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding email
>> > to
>> > its
>> > members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
>> > authentication
>> > and same user can work with individual account.
>> > Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR but
>> > don't
>> > why it is being generated.
>> >
>> > Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get it
>> > working.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>>

"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> What is the NDR?
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..
>
> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8AC12A9E-3FF0-4332-8AA1-7841821951B4@microsoft.com...
> > Yes you are right that the mailbox doesn't have mailbox.  I am saying on
> > the
> > basis that Message tracking system does register the incoming email and
> > then
> > generate NDR.
> >
> > My application works fine with indivisual users but just doesn't with
> > groups
> > of those restrictions.  If I take the restrictions off then it works too.
> > So
> > it got to be something with "authenticated users only" restriction.
> >
> > I hope I have answered your question.
> >
> > Any other ideas
> >
> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> What do you mean that it's successful sending to the group but it doesn't
> >> go
> >> to the members?  A group doesn't have a mailbox; there's nowhere for the
> >> message to go except to the group members.  If you send to a group but it
> >> doesn't get to the members, then it wasn't successful.  Apparently the
> >> application is not authenticating properly, or with an account that's
> >> authorized to send to the group.
> >> --
> >> Ed Crowley MVP
> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> >> ..
> >>
> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello there
> >> > I have a group which is set to accept messages from "Authenticated
> >> > users
> >> > only" and only from company users (domain users).
> >> > Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.  It
> >> > works
> >> > fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is
> >> > successful
> >> > in
> >> > sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding email
> >> > to
> >> > its
> >> > members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
> >> > authentication
> >> > and same user can work with individual account.
> >> > Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR but
> >> > don't
> >> > why it is being generated.
> >> >
> >> > Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get it
> >> > working.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >>
> >>
>
>

"Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E22A81A7-4F33-4C88-91ED-D91EACB00470@microsoft.com...
> NDR - Non delivery report
>
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> What is the NDR?
>> --
>> Ed Crowley MVP
>> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
>> ..
>>
>> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8AC12A9E-3FF0-4332-8AA1-7841821951B4@microsoft.com...
>> > Yes you are right that the mailbox doesn't have mailbox.  I am saying
>> > on
>> > the
>> > basis that Message tracking system does register the incoming email and
>> > then
>> > generate NDR.
>> >
>> > My application works fine with indivisual users but just doesn't with
>> > groups
>> > of those restrictions.  If I take the restrictions off then it works
>> > too.
>> > So
>> > it got to be something with "authenticated users only" restriction.
>> >
>> > I hope I have answered your question.
>> >
>> > Any other ideas
>> >
>> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What do you mean that it's successful sending to the group but it
>> >> doesn't
>> >> go
>> >> to the members?  A group doesn't have a mailbox; there's nowhere for
>> >> the
>> >> message to go except to the group members.  If you send to a group but
>> >> it
>> >> doesn't get to the members, then it wasn't successful.  Apparently the
>> >> application is not authenticating properly, or with an account that's
>> >> authorized to send to the group.
>> >> --
>> >> Ed Crowley MVP
>> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
>> >> problems."
>> >> ..
>> >>
>> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello there
>> >> > I have a group which is set to accept messages from "Authenticated
>> >> > users
>> >> > only" and only from company users (domain users).
>> >> > Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.  It
>> >> > works
>> >> > fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is
>> >> > successful
>> >> > in
>> >> > sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding
>> >> > email
>> >> > to
>> >> > its
>> >> > members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
>> >> > authentication
>> >> > and same user can work with individual account.
>> >> > Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR but
>> >> > don't
>> >> > why it is being generated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get it
>> >> > working.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> Not what is NDR, what is THE NDR.  Please always post the full text of any
> NDR you get.
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..
>
> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E22A81A7-4F33-4C88-91ED-D91EACB00470@microsoft.com...
> > NDR - Non delivery report
> >
> >
> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> What is the NDR?
> >> --
> >> Ed Crowley MVP
> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> >> ..
> >>
> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8AC12A9E-3FF0-4332-8AA1-7841821951B4@microsoft.com...
> >> > Yes you are right that the mailbox doesn't have mailbox.  I am saying
> >> > on
> >> > the
> >> > basis that Message tracking system does register the incoming email and
> >> > then
> >> > generate NDR.
> >> >
> >> > My application works fine with indivisual users but just doesn't with
> >> > groups
> >> > of those restrictions.  If I take the restrictions off then it works
> >> > too.
> >> > So
> >> > it got to be something with "authenticated users only" restriction.
> >> >
> >> > I hope I have answered your question.
> >> >
> >> > Any other ideas
> >> >
> >> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What do you mean that it's successful sending to the group but it
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> go
> >> >> to the members?  A group doesn't have a mailbox; there's nowhere for
> >> >> the
> >> >> message to go except to the group members.  If you send to a group but
> >> >> it
> >> >> doesn't get to the members, then it wasn't successful.  Apparently the
> >> >> application is not authenticating properly, or with an account that's
> >> >> authorized to send to the group.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Ed Crowley MVP
> >> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
> >> >> problems."
> >> >> ..
> >> >>
> >> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hello there
> >> >> > I have a group which is set to accept messages from "Authenticated
> >> >> > users
> >> >> > only" and only from company users (domain users).
> >> >> > Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.  It
> >> >> > works
> >> >> > fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is
> >> >> > successful
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding
> >> >> > email
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > its
> >> >> > members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
> >> >> > authentication
> >> >> > and same user can work with individual account.
> >> >> > Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR but
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > why it is being generated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get it
> >> >> > working.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

"Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E6B4D405-7395-41B1-803A-EA55F376AEE5@microsoft.com...
> NDR doesn't show up in sendor mailbox.  It just doesn't come up anywhere.
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Not what is NDR, what is THE NDR.  Please always post the full text of
>> any
>> NDR you get.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley MVP
>> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
>> ..
>>
>> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E22A81A7-4F33-4C88-91ED-D91EACB00470@microsoft.com...
>> > NDR - Non delivery report
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What is the NDR?
>> >> --
>> >> Ed Crowley MVP
>> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
>> >> problems."
>> >> ..
>> >>
>> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8AC12A9E-3FF0-4332-8AA1-7841821951B4@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Yes you are right that the mailbox doesn't have mailbox.  I am
>> >> > saying
>> >> > on
>> >> > the
>> >> > basis that Message tracking system does register the incoming email
>> >> > and
>> >> > then
>> >> > generate NDR.
>> >> >
>> >> > My application works fine with indivisual users but just doesn't
>> >> > with
>> >> > groups
>> >> > of those restrictions.  If I take the restrictions off then it works
>> >> > too.
>> >> > So
>> >> > it got to be something with "authenticated users only" restriction.
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope I have answered your question.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any other ideas
>> >> >
>> >> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> What do you mean that it's successful sending to the group but it
>> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> go
>> >> >> to the members?  A group doesn't have a mailbox; there's nowhere
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> message to go except to the group members.  If you send to a group
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> doesn't get to the members, then it wasn't successful.  Apparently
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> application is not authenticating properly, or with an account
>> >> >> that's
>> >> >> authorized to send to the group.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Ed Crowley MVP
>> >> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
>> >> >> problems."
>> >> >> ..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Hello there
>> >> >> > I have a group which is set to accept messages from
>> >> >> > "Authenticated
>> >> >> > users
>> >> >> > only" and only from company users (domain users).
>> >> >> > Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.
>> >> >> > It
>> >> >> > works
>> >> >> > fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is
>> >> >> > successful
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding
>> >> >> > email
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > its
>> >> >> > members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
>> >> >> > authentication
>> >> >> > and same user can work with individual account.
>> >> >> > Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > don't
>> >> >> > why it is being generated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > working.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> You might want to enable SMTP protocol logging, then, and see if you can
> tell what's going on.
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..
>
> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E6B4D405-7395-41B1-803A-EA55F376AEE5@microsoft.com...
> > NDR doesn't show up in sendor mailbox.  It just doesn't come up anywhere.
> >
> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Not what is NDR, what is THE NDR.  Please always post the full text of
> >> any
> >> NDR you get.
> >> --
> >> Ed Crowley MVP
> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> >> ..
> >>
> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E22A81A7-4F33-4C88-91ED-D91EACB00470@microsoft.com...
> >> > NDR - Non delivery report
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What is the NDR?
> >> >> --
> >> >> Ed Crowley MVP
> >> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
> >> >> problems."
> >> >> ..
> >> >>
> >> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:8AC12A9E-3FF0-4332-8AA1-7841821951B4@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Yes you are right that the mailbox doesn't have mailbox.  I am
> >> >> > saying
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > basis that Message tracking system does register the incoming email
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > then
> >> >> > generate NDR.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My application works fine with indivisual users but just doesn't
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > groups
> >> >> > of those restrictions.  If I take the restrictions off then it works
> >> >> > too.
> >> >> > So
> >> >> > it got to be something with "authenticated users only" restriction.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I hope I have answered your question.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any other ideas
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> What do you mean that it's successful sending to the group but it
> >> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> go
> >> >> >> to the members?  A group doesn't have a mailbox; there's nowhere
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> message to go except to the group members.  If you send to a group
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> doesn't get to the members, then it wasn't successful.  Apparently
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> application is not authenticating properly, or with an account
> >> >> >> that's
> >> >> >> authorized to send to the group.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Ed Crowley MVP
> >> >> >> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
> >> >> >> problems."
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Karam" <Ka***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:71A1FA38-7B84-477B-BA06-B46C8244E411@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Hello there
> >> >> >> > I have a group which is set to accept messages from
> >> >> >> > "Authenticated
> >> >> >> > users
> >> >> >> > only" and only from company users (domain users).
> >> >> >> > Further I have an application which uses SMTP to send messages.
> >> >> >> > It
> >> >> >> > works
> >> >> >> > fine if it sends an emal to individual users.  Application is
> >> >> >> > successful
> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> > sending email to group but somehow email group is not forwarding
> >> >> >> > email
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > its
> >> >> >> > members.  Application does use a valid user and password for
> >> >> >> > authentication
> >> >> >> > and same user can work with individual account.
> >> >> >> > Looking through diagonostic tool that Exchange is generating NDR
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > don't
> >> >> >> > why it is being generated.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Can anybody advise what I am missing or what I need to do to get
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > working.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>