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Author
27 Feb 2009 8:12 PM
Mitch
Hi,
We have exchange 2003 standard.  Our database has grown to 75GB and the
information store deactivates.  We removed mailboxes that were not in use
which was a total of about 20GB.  It seem to resolve the problem for about a
month and then came back saying were at 75GB again.  I don't think we used
20GB in a month.  When mailboxes are removed to free up space, should it
shrink the database equally to the amount of GB removed?  Thanks.

Mitch

Author
28 Feb 2009 4:12 AM
Dan H
No, it's not necessarily a 1-1 match, but if you're playing that close to the
limits, you may really want to dig into where the space is going.

Since the db uses SIS (Single Instance Storage), and the way the messages
are stored (and sizes represented), the mailbox will probably show as
slightly larger then the database space that will be reclaimed. 

If you are going to try to free up more space, you can check and make sure
you're cleaning up the deleted mailboxes (they don't really delete once you
delete them, but rather just mark themselves for deletion.)  You can also
make sure you don't have too long a period set for the dumpster (which will
maintain deleted items.)  Of course, trying to attack the large mailboxes is
always a good idea.  It may be as simple as reminding people to delete their
sent items.  Enabling a retention policy (after proper approval and
communication of course) could be a life saver if you don't already have one
in place.  That way you can automatically delete things that are over 30 days
old from people's deleted items folder (for example). 

Of course, it's probably worth digging into your messaging
profiles/statistics.  How many new messages are people getting a day.  What
is the rate of increase for each mailbox every day.  Maybe there's one that
just gets flooded with an automated message that's continually filling up. 

Since you've already had to reclaim space, you know that an offline defrag
will be needed to actually shrink the database size, but just keep that in
mind as you make changes.  When the online maintenance runs, you'll be able
to see how much space would be reclaimed, so even if you don't do one
(Exchange will still just use the whitespace before allocating new disk
space), you should have a good idea of how much room you have. 

-Dan Holton

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"Mitch" wrote:

> Hi,
> We have exchange 2003 standard.  Our database has grown to 75GB and the
> information store deactivates.  We removed mailboxes that were not in use
> which was a total of about 20GB.  It seem to resolve the problem for about a
> month and then came back saying were at 75GB again.  I don't think we used
> 20GB in a month.  When mailboxes are removed to free up space, should it
> shrink the database equally to the amount of GB removed?  Thanks.
>
> Mitch
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Author
2 Mar 2009 3:01 PM
Mitch
Thanks for the information.

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"Dan H" wrote:

> No, it's not necessarily a 1-1 match, but if you're playing that close to the
> limits, you may really want to dig into where the space is going.
>
> Since the db uses SIS (Single Instance Storage), and the way the messages
> are stored (and sizes represented), the mailbox will probably show as
> slightly larger then the database space that will be reclaimed. 
>
> If you are going to try to free up more space, you can check and make sure
> you're cleaning up the deleted mailboxes (they don't really delete once you
> delete them, but rather just mark themselves for deletion.)  You can also
> make sure you don't have too long a period set for the dumpster (which will
> maintain deleted items.)  Of course, trying to attack the large mailboxes is
> always a good idea.  It may be as simple as reminding people to delete their
> sent items.  Enabling a retention policy (after proper approval and
> communication of course) could be a life saver if you don't already have one
> in place.  That way you can automatically delete things that are over 30 days
> old from people's deleted items folder (for example). 
>
> Of course, it's probably worth digging into your messaging
> profiles/statistics.  How many new messages are people getting a day.  What
> is the rate of increase for each mailbox every day.  Maybe there's one that
> just gets flooded with an automated message that's continually filling up. 
>
> Since you've already had to reclaim space, you know that an offline defrag
> will be needed to actually shrink the database size, but just keep that in
> mind as you make changes.  When the online maintenance runs, you'll be able
> to see how much space would be reclaimed, so even if you don't do one
> (Exchange will still just use the whitespace before allocating new disk
> space), you should have a good idea of how much room you have. 
>
> -Dan Holton
>
> "Mitch" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > We have exchange 2003 standard.  Our database has grown to 75GB and the
> > information store deactivates.  We removed mailboxes that were not in use
> > which was a total of about 20GB.  It seem to resolve the problem for about a
> > month and then came back saying were at 75GB again.  I don't think we used
> > 20GB in a month.  When mailboxes are removed to free up space, should it
> > shrink the database equally to the amount of GB removed?  Thanks.
> >
> > Mitch
Author
2 Mar 2009 4:43 AM
John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]
Dan makes some good points.  I would suggest running an offline defrag with
eseutil if you are have deleted that much data recently.  Make sure you have
good backup of your database file .edb and .stm before performing.

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Defragmenting-Exchange-Database.html

--
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2009
Microsoft Certified Partner


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"Mitch" <Mi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> We have exchange 2003 standard.  Our database has grown to 75GB and the
> information store deactivates.  We removed mailboxes that were not in use
> which was a total of about 20GB.  It seem to resolve the problem for about
> a
> month and then came back saying were at 75GB again.  I don't think we used
> 20GB in a month.  When mailboxes are removed to free up space, should it
> shrink the database equally to the amount of GB removed?  Thanks.
>
> Mitch
Author
3 Mar 2009 12:30 AM
Venger
John Oliver, Jr. [MVP] wrote:
> Dan makes some good points.  I would suggest running an offline defrag
> with eseutil if you are have deleted that much data recently.  Make sure
> you have good backup of your database file .edb and .stm before performing.
>
> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Defragmenting-Exchange-Database.html

Yep, and make sure you have enough free space on the drive you are doing
the defrag on... no sense letting it run for a couple hours only to bomb
out with no more space. There are ways to specify alternate drive
locations for the defrag temp files at the eseutil command line...

Venger
Author
3 Mar 2009 1:21 PM
Mitch
Thanks for the advice.

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"Venger" wrote:

> John Oliver, Jr. [MVP] wrote:
> > Dan makes some good points.  I would suggest running an offline defrag
> > with eseutil if you are have deleted that much data recently.  Make sure
> > you have good backup of your database file .edb and .stm before performing.
> >
> > http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Defragmenting-Exchange-Database.html
>
> Yep, and make sure you have enough free space on the drive you are doing
> the defrag on... no sense letting it run for a couple hours only to bomb
> out with no more space. There are ways to specify alternate drive
> locations for the defrag temp files at the eseutil command line...
>
> Venger
>
>

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