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Author
17 Apr 2009 2:37 PM
WildPacket
users receive delayed notifications for quite a few domains .... seems to be
growing sloooooooowly  ... exc2003 did not had this issue. 

Since deployed HTS and albound mail goes from here .... I am noticing
deferred delivery for few domains ...outbound mails goes to Postini first
..... and then they deliver to receipients.

I am also waiting for a response on this from postini too ...

I know there could be so many reasons ..but is there any thing on my HTS I
can check to make sure its not my HTS????

Thanks,

Author
17 Apr 2009 2:57 PM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
Wildpacket,

Send an email out to hotmail or an external account of yours, then check the
headers to see where it's being delayed. A fairly easy process.

If you have a confirmed delayed outbound message, post the headers here and
we can help identity the delayed hop.

Oliver
Author
17 Apr 2009 3:40 PM
WildPacket
here is a delayed message header for a user who tried to send an email
yesterday ...his mbx is on exch2003 and email goes to internet postini via
HTS01

Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from HTS01.domain.com ([10.1.1.214]) by exch2003.domain.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444);
             Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:23:11 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0

From: <MicrosoftExchange329e71ec88ae4615bbc36ab6ce411***@domain.com>
To: <u***@domain.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:23:11 -0400
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
            boundary="26375094-e80f-4920-b70e-5788149da08e"
Content-Language: en-US

Message-ID: <46cf565c-99d7-480c-baf4-68897872df5b>

In-Reply-To: <894C45EEB728A549A4797ECEA29DAFA3096C3***@exch2003.domain.com>
References:
<C78E787B1A4EDA46996161BD31C144130A104***@ME6AWMAILCLUS01.bkng.net>

<894C45EEB728A549A4797ECEA29DAFA3096C3***@exh2003.domain.com>
Thread-Topic: Review Active X issue

Thread-Index: Acm9yx9RFtgt+CKXTGGAdSCkQu9cFwANIn9AADRKR7AAAi5Ixg==
Subject: Delivery Delayed: RE: Review Active X issue

Return-Path: MicrosoftExchange329e71ec88ae4615bbc36ab6ce411***@domain.com
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Apr 2009 21:23:11.0818 (UTC)
FILETIME=[8BBA1AA0:01C9BED9]

--26375094-e80f-4920-b70e-5788149da08e

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; differences=Content-Type;
            boundary="b34e8177-d42d-45a7-906b-13e00f144744"

--b34e8177-d42d-45a7-906b-13e00f144744
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

--b34e8177-d42d-45a7-906b-13e00f144744
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


--b34e8177-d42d-45a7-906b-13e00f144744--
--26375094-e80f-4920-b70e-5788149da08e
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

--26375094-e80f-4920-b70e-5788149da08e
Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers


--26375094-e80f-4920-b70e-5788149da08e--













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"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote:

> Wildpacket,
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> Send an email out to hotmail or an external account of yours, then check the
> headers to see where it's being delayed. A fairly easy process.
>
> If you have a confirmed delayed outbound message, post the headers here and
> we can help identity the delayed hop.
>
> Oliver
>
>
>
Author
17 Apr 2009 3:46 PM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
Wp,

You got one that's been delivered? That just shows two Servers inside your
domain :-)


Oliver
Author
17 Apr 2009 4:07 PM
WildPacket
Oliver thanks.

I am confused ... the header info here is taken from a delay message whcih
was sent from exc2003 to this user.  this was in the message ...


Subject: RE: Review Active X issue
This message has not yet been delivered. Microsoft Exchange will continue to
try delivering the message on your behalf.

Delivery of this message will be attempted until 4/17/2009 4:22:17 PM
(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada). Microsoft Exchange will notify you if
the message can't be delivered by that time.
________________________________________
Sent by Microsoft Exchange Server 2007





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"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote:

> Wp,
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> You got one that's been delivered? That just shows two Servers inside your
> domain :-)
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> Oliver
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Author
17 Apr 2009 4:09 PM
WildPacket
Sorry I did not read your question properly ...
we know the message got delivered to the receipient ....but it was late ....
I dont have info on that .....

or you want me to approach the receipient and ask for the headers of the
messgae he received from us?????????




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"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote:

> Wp,
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> You got one that's been delivered? That just shows two Servers inside your
> domain :-)
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> Oliver
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Author
17 Apr 2009 5:10 PM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
> or you want me to approach the receipient and ask for the headers of the
> messgae he received from us?????????

Yeah dude, if it's too much trouble, just scan your SMTP protocol logs and
ensure you have delivered to Postinim, your outbound gateway, in a normal
period of time.

http://exchangepedia.com/blog/2007/05/exchange-server-2007-logging-smtp.html

Oliver
Author
17 Apr 2009 3:04 PM
WildPacket
Here is the config on my Send Connector ...



AddressSpaces                : {SMTP:*;1}
AuthenticationCredential     :
Comment                      :
ConnectedDomains             : {}
ConnectionInactivityTimeOut  : 00:10:00
DNSRoutingEnabled            : True
DomainSecureEnabled          : False
Enabled                      : True
ForceHELO                    : False
Fqdn                         : webmail.domain.com
HomeMTA                      : Microsoft MTA
HomeMtaServerId              : HTS01
Identity                     : To Postini
IgnoreSTARTTLS               : False
IsScopedConnector            : False
IsSmtpConnector              : True
LinkedReceiveConnector       :
MaxMessageSize               : 25MB
Name                         : To Postini
Port                         : 25
ProtocolLoggingLevel         : Verbose
RequireTLS                   : False
SmartHostAuthMechanism       : None
SmartHosts                   : {}
SmartHostsString             :
SourceIPAddress              : 0.0.0.0
SourceRoutingGroup           : Exchange Routing Group (DWBGZMFD01QNBJR)
SourceTransportServers       : {HTS01, HTS02}
UseExternalDNSServersEnabled : True















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"WildPacket" wrote:

> users receive delayed notifications for quite a few domains .... seems to be
> growing sloooooooowly  ... exc2003 did not had this issue. 
>
> Since deployed HTS and albound mail goes from here .... I am noticing
> deferred delivery for few domains ...outbound mails goes to Postini first
> .... and then they deliver to receipients.
>
> I am also waiting for a response on this from postini too ...
>
> I know there could be so many reasons ..but is there any thing on my HTS I
> can check to make sure its not my HTS????
>
> Thanks,
Author
17 Apr 2009 3:25 PM
WildPacket
I justi notice the Require TLS value is set to false and it is default ...
Does this mean my outbound mail is not tls encrypted?????

But when I check the headers on a message sent to hotmail it shows TLSv1
.......

Getting off the track now ...



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"WildPacket" wrote:

> Here is the config on my Send Connector ...
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> AddressSpaces                : {SMTP:*;1}
> AuthenticationCredential     :
> Comment                      :
> ConnectedDomains             : {}
> ConnectionInactivityTimeOut  : 00:10:00
> DNSRoutingEnabled            : True
> DomainSecureEnabled          : False
> Enabled                      : True
> ForceHELO                    : False
> Fqdn                         : webmail.domain.com
> HomeMTA                      : Microsoft MTA
> HomeMtaServerId              : HTS01
> Identity                     : To Postini
> IgnoreSTARTTLS               : False
> IsScopedConnector            : False
> IsSmtpConnector              : True
> LinkedReceiveConnector       :
> MaxMessageSize               : 25MB
> Name                         : To Postini
> Port                         : 25
> ProtocolLoggingLevel         : Verbose
> RequireTLS                   : False
> SmartHostAuthMechanism       : None
> SmartHosts                   : {}
> SmartHostsString             :
> SourceIPAddress              : 0.0.0.0
> SourceRoutingGroup           : Exchange Routing Group (DWBGZMFD01QNBJR)
> SourceTransportServers       : {HTS01, HTS02}
> UseExternalDNSServersEnabled : True
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> "WildPacket" wrote:
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> > users receive delayed notifications for quite a few domains .... seems to be
> > growing sloooooooowly  ... exc2003 did not had this issue. 
> >
> > Since deployed HTS and albound mail goes from here .... I am noticing
> > deferred delivery for few domains ...outbound mails goes to Postini first
> > .... and then they deliver to receipients.
> >
> > I am also waiting for a response on this from postini too ...
> >
> > I know there could be so many reasons ..but is there any thing on my HTS I
> > can check to make sure its not my HTS????
> >
> > Thanks,
Author
17 Apr 2009 3:43 PM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
Require means enforced, rather than opportunistic (which is default)

Oliver


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>I justi notice the Require TLS value is set to false and it is default ...
> Does this mean my outbound mail is not tls encrypted?????
>
> But when I check the headers on a message sent to hotmail it shows TLSv1
Author
17 Apr 2009 4:04 PM
WildPacket
So i guess all outgong is tls enabled ... phew ...



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"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote:

> Require means enforced, rather than opportunistic (which is default)
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> Oliver
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> >I justi notice the Require TLS value is set to false and it is default ...
> > Does this mean my outbound mail is not tls encrypted?????
> >
> > But when I check the headers on a message sent to hotmail it shows TLSv1
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Author
17 Apr 2009 5:15 PM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
> So i guess all outgong is tls enabled ... phew ...

:-)

Oliver
Author
17 Apr 2009 5:24 PM
WildPacket
Oliver thanks .....so much.  You are a big help ..Keep up the great work ,....

I am so swamped with ... thigns here ..setting up MOSS2007, Exc-migration
.... restore of DBS SQL an so much other help des k...
You guys r great ...



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"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" wrote:

> > So i guess all outgong is tls enabled ... phew ...
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> Oliver
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Author
17 Apr 2009 5:28 PM
Andy David {MVP}
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:04:01 -0700, WildPacket
<WildPac***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>So i guess all outgong is tls enabled ... phew ...

If the server its connecting to supports it, yes.
Author
17 Apr 2009 6:11 PM
WildPacket
Yes ..


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"Andy David {MVP}" wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:04:01 -0700, WildPacket
> <WildPac***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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> >So i guess all outgong is tls enabled ... phew ...
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> If the server its connecting to supports it, yes