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Backupexec 12 and Exchange 2007 SCC cluster backup

Author
1 May 2009 5:27 AM
Gilbert
I'd like to know how to properly setup Backup Exec version 12 or 12.5 to
backup a SCC cluster. 

Do I point to the cluster name, the primary server or what??

I have 2 servers Mail3 and Mail4 and the cluster name is Mail2.

Author
1 May 2009 9:17 AM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
Hi,

You point to the CMS name, BackupExec 12.5 supports a cool feature called
GRT. You should check it out - it allows item level restores into mailboxes
without having to do brick level backups or use a Recovery Storage Group.

Oliver
Author
2 May 2009 1:13 PM
Pepe
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You point to the CMS name, BackupExec 12.5 supports a cool feature called
> GRT. You should check it out - it allows item level restores into mailboxes
> without having to do brick level backups or use a Recovery Storage Group.

The GRT functionality in BE 12.0/12.5 (fully patched, mind you) does not
work reliably at all. Sometimes, it errors straight away; sometimes, it
recovers well some messages but many others are recovered with blank
bodies; and sometimes, it errors after several minutes running, once it
has recovered about half the messages you instructed it to process.

DO NOT RELY ON GRT WORKING AS ADVERTISED. Learn to use the Recovery
Storage Group (plus ExMerge for Exchange 2003, or Restore-Mailbox in
Exchange 2007), if you don't want to sweat blood when the time comes.

The fact is that GRT in Backup Exec is a hack. Microsoft has not
published the internals of the Exchange *.edb/*.stm database files, so
Backup Exec tries its best to reverse engineer them, but fails most of
the time. The official way to interact with the Exchange Store for
recovery purposes is through the Microsoft official Exchange APIs, and
that means using the Recovery Storage Group.

(Bottom line: if using a Microsoft product, don't try to go against the
One Microsoft Way, or be ready for the pain.)

Regards.

-Pepe.
Author
2 May 2009 1:28 PM
Andy David {MVP}
On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:13:30 +0200, Pepe <p***@naleco.com> wrote:

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>Oliver Moazzezi [MVP] wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You point to the CMS name, BackupExec 12.5 supports a cool feature called
>> GRT. You should check it out - it allows item level restores into mailboxes
>> without having to do brick level backups or use a Recovery Storage Group.
>
>The GRT functionality in BE 12.0/12.5 (fully patched, mind you) does not
>work reliably at all. Sometimes, it errors straight away; sometimes, it
>recovers well some messages but many others are recovered with blank
>bodies; and sometimes, it errors after several minutes running, once it
>has recovered about half the messages you instructed it to process.
>
>DO NOT RELY ON GRT WORKING AS ADVERTISED. Learn to use the Recovery
>Storage Group (plus ExMerge for Exchange 2003, or Restore-Mailbox in
>Exchange 2007), if you don't want to sweat blood when the time comes.
>
>The fact is that GRT in Backup Exec is a hack. Microsoft has not
>published the internals of the Exchange *.edb/*.stm database files, so
>Backup Exec tries its best to reverse engineer them, but fails most of
>the time. The official way to interact with the Exchange Store for
>recovery purposes is through the Microsoft official Exchange APIs, and
>that means using the Recovery Storage Group.
>
>(Bottom line: if using a Microsoft product, don't try to go against the
>One Microsoft Way, or be ready for the pain.)
>
>Regards.
>
>-Pepe.


Yea, it sucks. Flat-out broke the ability to back up stores after it
was enabled on some 2007 servers in a branch office. And dont forget
that it requires the installation of the MAPI/CDO components. UGH!  (
Which has to match the version of the Backup server of course)

Except for the standard version of Exchange *2000*, there has never
been a good reason to take, support or do mailbox level backups.

Adequate Item and Mailbox retention is all that is needed. And,
failing that, the recovery storage group as you mentioned.

How often does anyone need to recover a mailbox anyway?
Author
6 May 2009 2:38 PM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
> How often does anyone need to recover a mailbox anyway?

You're going to hate me but daily over here :-(

Oliver
Author
6 May 2009 4:58 PM
Andy David {MVP}
On Wed, 6 May 2009 15:38:19 +0100, "Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]"
<o.moazzezino@spamfreenet.co.uk> wrote:

>> How often does anyone need to recover a mailbox anyway?
>
>You're going to hate me but daily over here :-(
>
>Oliver
>


I'm betting your situation is a little different!  :P
Author
7 May 2009 12:48 PM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
> I'm betting your situation is a little different!  :P

:-)

Oliver
Author
7 May 2009 9:59 PM
Pepe
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP] wrote:
>>How often does anyone need to recover a mailbox anyway?
>
> You're going to hate me but daily over here :-(

So, what tools/methodology do you use for the recovery (when the mailbox
to be recovered is outside of the mailbox deletion time-retention policy)?