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Exchange 2000-2003 upgrade and rebuild server

Author
19 Jun 2009 4:08 PM
Guy
I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000.  When I
purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to load
Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to install
Exchange 2003. 

A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
corrupted the SMTP queue.  The fix was to disable the queue and create a new
one.  The residual effect is that the folder associated with the original
SMTP queue is still corrupt.  This obviously concerns me, that's why I want
to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE it.

What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows Server 2003
(already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server 2003.  I have an
extra server I could use to help in this process but I'm not sure how to
proceed.

One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and Exchange
2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over.  But then I want to
rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I could do that since it's
the first site.

Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this that may
help me out?

Thanks in advance

Guy

Author
19 Jun 2009 4:29 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Guy <G**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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> I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000.  When I
> purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
> load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
> install Exchange 2003.
>
> A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
> corrupted the SMTP queue.  The fix was to disable the queue and
> create a new one.  The residual effect is that the folder associated
> with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt.  This obviously
> concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
> it.
>
> What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
> Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
> 2003.  I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
> I'm not sure how to proceed.
>
> One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
> Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over.  But
> then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
> could do that since it's the first site.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
> that may help me out?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Guy

First question: is your existing server a DC?
If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if at
all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think you
do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will want
an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if I'm
using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy
workstation box, you know....

From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You
could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into
the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then
remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from
the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are loads
of little things to do in the process.
Author
23 Jun 2009 5:25 PM
Guy Kerr
No the server is not a DC.

So there's no issue about rebuilding the original Exchange 2000 box even if
it's the first server in the site?  I thought this was always an issue? 
Obviously I don't rebuild Exchange too often but I had a recollection that
this causes problems.

Thanks for the "high level", any idea where I can get the more detailed
instructions about the entire process?

Thanks again!

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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Guy <G**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000.  When I
> > purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
> > load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
> > install Exchange 2003.
> >
> > A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
> > corrupted the SMTP queue.  The fix was to disable the queue and
> > create a new one.  The residual effect is that the folder associated
> > with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt.  This obviously
> > concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
> > it.
> >
> > What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
> > Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
> > 2003.  I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
> > I'm not sure how to proceed.
> >
> > One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
> > Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over.  But
> > then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
> > could do that since it's the first site.
> >
> > Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
> > that may help me out?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Guy
>
> First question: is your existing server a DC?
> If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if at
> all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think you
> do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will want
> an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if I'm
> using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy
> workstation box, you know....
>
> From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You
> could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into
> the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then
> remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from
> the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are loads
> of little things to do in the process.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Author
23 Jun 2009 6:50 PM
Ed Crowley [MVP]
If you're going to upgrade now, why not go to a current version?  Exchange
2007 is way beyond the early adopter phase now.

You should always use this method to migrate a server:
http://www.exchangefaq.org/faq/Exchange-2000/Exchange-2000-Move-Server-Method-/sectionID/1024
plus http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931
--
Ed Crowley MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
..

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"Guy Kerr" <GuyK***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AF9088B1-CBA6-45B1-A1B5-58B1E0B54731@microsoft.com...
> No the server is not a DC.
>
> So there's no issue about rebuilding the original Exchange 2000 box even
> if
> it's the first server in the site?  I thought this was always an issue?
> Obviously I don't rebuild Exchange too often but I had a recollection that
> this causes problems.
>
> Thanks for the "high level", any idea where I can get the more detailed
> instructions about the entire process?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>> Guy <G**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000.  When I
>> > purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
>> > load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
>> > install Exchange 2003.
>> >
>> > A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
>> > corrupted the SMTP queue.  The fix was to disable the queue and
>> > create a new one.  The residual effect is that the folder associated
>> > with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt.  This obviously
>> > concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
>> > it.
>> >
>> > What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
>> > Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
>> > 2003.  I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
>> > I'm not sure how to proceed.
>> >
>> > One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
>> > Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over.  But
>> > then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
>> > could do that since it's the first site.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
>> > that may help me out?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance
>> >
>> > Guy
>>
>> First question: is your existing server a DC?
>> If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if
>> at
>> all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think
>> you
>> do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will
>> want
>> an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if
>> I'm
>> using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy
>> workstation box, you know....
>>
>> From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You
>> could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into
>> the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then
>> remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from
>> the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are
>> loads
>> of little things to do in the process.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Author
23 Jun 2009 7:52 PM
Guy Kerr
It's a cost issue.  They (my client) already purchased Exchange 2003 and
don't want to incur any more expenses at this time.

Thanks for the migration docs - I'll take a look.

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"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> If you're going to upgrade now, why not go to a current version?  Exchange
> 2007 is way beyond the early adopter phase now.
>
> You should always use this method to migrate a server:
> http://www.exchangefaq.org/faq/Exchange-2000/Exchange-2000-Move-Server-Method-/sectionID/1024
> plus http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822931
> --
> Ed Crowley MVP
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
> ..
>
> "Guy Kerr" <GuyK***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AF9088B1-CBA6-45B1-A1B5-58B1E0B54731@microsoft.com...
> > No the server is not a DC.
> >
> > So there's no issue about rebuilding the original Exchange 2000 box even
> > if
> > it's the first server in the site?  I thought this was always an issue?
> > Obviously I don't rebuild Exchange too often but I had a recollection that
> > this causes problems.
> >
> > Thanks for the "high level", any idea where I can get the more detailed
> > instructions about the entire process?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> >
> >> Guy <G**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > I have an Exchange Server 2000 running on Windows Server 2000.  When I
> >> > purchased the server Exchange Server 2003 was brand new so I chose to
> >> > load Exchange 2000 (I'm not an early adopter) but I have licenses to
> >> > install Exchange 2003.
> >> >
> >> > A few years ago this server was hit badly with SPAM which eventually
> >> > corrupted the SMTP queue.  The fix was to disable the queue and
> >> > create a new one.  The residual effect is that the folder associated
> >> > with the original SMTP queue is still corrupt.  This obviously
> >> > concerns me, that's why I want to rebuild the server and not UPGRADE
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> > What I want to accomplish is to get Exchange running on Windows
> >> > Server 2003 (already have a license for this too) and Exchange Server
> >> > 2003.  I have an extra server I could use to help in this process but
> >> > I'm not sure how to proceed.
> >> >
> >> > One thought would be to load this extra server with Win2003 and
> >> > Exchange 2003 as an extra site then move the mailboxes over.  But
> >> > then I want to rebuild my current Exchange box so I'm not sure if I
> >> > could do that since it's the first site.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone have any thoughts and prefereably experience doing this
> >> > that may help me out?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance
> >> >
> >> > Guy
> >>
> >> First question: is your existing server a DC?
> >> If so, is it your sole DC? You really want Exchange on a member server if
> >> at
> >> all possible. And although it isn't a requirement foro this, I'd think
> >> you
> >> do want to upgrade to W2003 AD - but not in place. So I think you will
> >> want
> >> an extra box here. The only time I'd want to see Exchange on a DC is if
> >> I'm
> >> using SBS, in which case I have no choice. The DC can be a crappy
> >> workstation box, you know....
> >>
> >> From the Exchange standpoint, there's no need to set up a new 'site'. You
> >> could install Windows 2003 as a member server, install Exchange 2003 into
> >> the same admin group, patch to SP2, move mailboxes & replicate PFs - then
> >> remove the replicas from the 1st server and uninstall E2k gracefully from
> >> the old box. Those are the 'high level' steps, of course - there are
> >> loads
> >> of little things to do in the process.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>