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Store Dismounted - 16GB Limit ReachedRunning Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP Have about 200 Mailboxes. The store dismounted today. I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store and get users up and running. I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old mailboxes the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size didnt change significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more mail that that was deleted or archived. What am I doing wrong ? Thanks ! Deleted items don't get purged immediately. You have to wait for:
1) The Deleted Items Retention period to pass. If yours is set to 30 days, you can run eseutil all you want but you won't reclaim any space. 2) Online maintenance has run. Once your DIR period has passed, Online maintenance identifies and purges those items that are past the policy and also generates the 1221 information event that tells you how much white space exists. Can you apply SP2 for Exchange 2003? It allows you to increase the database limit up to 75GB in Standard. It's been out for almost a month now. http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/search.aspx?q=sp2&p=1 -- Show quoteBen Winzenz Exchange MVP MessageOne "Seth_Gecko" <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote in message news:dlitc3$c8g$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > Hi > > Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP > > Have about 200 Mailboxes. > The store dismounted today. > > I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully > Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store > and get users up and running. > > I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive > Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB > > Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old > mailboxes > the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size > didnt change > significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more > mail that that was deleted or archived. > > What am I doing wrong ? > > Thanks ! > > > > ah okay thanks
it's now 12:02am , i just noticed that my daily online maintenance is set to run at 1am to 5am so hopefully by 5am it will have recovered all the space. Thanks! RE: SP2, yes i want to implement it but i am a bit apprehensive since it's only been out for such a short time and i am not good enough to sort out a problem should it occur during upgrade to SP2 Still need to do lots of homework before i attempt that. thanks so much for your help ! ;-) Show quote "Ben Winzenz [Exchange MVP]" <ben_winzenz@nospamdotmessageonedotcom> wrote in message news:O2mcxF86FHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Deleted items don't get purged immediately. You have to wait for: > > 1) The Deleted Items Retention period to pass. If yours is set to 30 > days, you can run eseutil all you want but you won't reclaim any space. > 2) Online maintenance has run. Once your DIR period has passed, Online > maintenance identifies and purges those items that are past the policy and > also generates the 1221 information event that tells you how much white > space exists. > > Can you apply SP2 for Exchange 2003? It allows you to increase the > database limit up to 75GB in Standard. It's been out for almost a month > now. > http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/search.aspx?q=sp2&p=1 > > -- > Ben Winzenz > Exchange MVP > MessageOne > > > "Seth_Gecko" <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote in message > news:dlitc3$c8g$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... >> Hi >> >> Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP >> >> Have about 200 Mailboxes. >> The store dismounted today. >> >> I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully >> Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store >> and get users up and running. >> >> I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive >> Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB >> >> Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old >> mailboxes >> the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size >> didnt change >> significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more >> mail that that was deleted or archived. >> >> What am I doing wrong ? >> >> Thanks ! >> >> >> >> > > sorry i just re-read your message and it seems i would need to change the
Deleted Items Retention period to 1 or perhaps 0 days ? Show quote "Seth_Gecko" <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote in message news:dliule$g60$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > ah okay thanks > > it's now 12:02am , i just noticed that my daily online maintenance is set > to run at 1am to 5am > so hopefully by 5am it will have recovered all the space. > Thanks! > > RE: SP2, yes i want to implement it > but i am a bit apprehensive since it's only been out for such a short time > and i am not good enough to sort out a problem should it occur during > upgrade to SP2 > > Still need to do lots of homework before i attempt that. > > thanks so much for your help ! > ;-) > > > "Ben Winzenz [Exchange MVP]" <ben_winzenz@nospamdotmessageonedotcom> wrote > in message news:O2mcxF86FHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> Deleted items don't get purged immediately. You have to wait for: >> >> 1) The Deleted Items Retention period to pass. If yours is set to 30 >> days, you can run eseutil all you want but you won't reclaim any space. >> 2) Online maintenance has run. Once your DIR period has passed, Online >> maintenance identifies and purges those items that are past the policy >> and also generates the 1221 information event that tells you how much >> white space exists. >> >> Can you apply SP2 for Exchange 2003? It allows you to increase the >> database limit up to 75GB in Standard. It's been out for almost a month >> now. >> http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/search.aspx?q=sp2&p=1 >> >> -- >> Ben Winzenz >> Exchange MVP >> MessageOne >> >> >> "Seth_Gecko" <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote in message >> news:dlitc3$c8g$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... >>> Hi >>> >>> Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP >>> >>> Have about 200 Mailboxes. >>> The store dismounted today. >>> >>> I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully >>> Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store >>> and get users up and running. >>> >>> I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive >>> Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB >>> >>> Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old >>> mailboxes >>> the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size >>> didnt change >>> significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more >>> mail that that was deleted or archived. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong ? >>> >>> Thanks ! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Seth ,
I feel your pain - I went through this same thing 2 weeks ago - once I figured everything out and temp fixed it I planned on the SP 2 install during the long weekend. I installed it , did the reg tweak to increase it and everything is peachy !. Nothing wrong so far ( fingers crossed ) . Paul Show quote "Seth_Gecko" <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote in message news:dliule$g60$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... > ah okay thanks > > it's now 12:02am , i just noticed that my daily online maintenance is set > to run at 1am to 5am > so hopefully by 5am it will have recovered all the space. > Thanks! > > RE: SP2, yes i want to implement it > but i am a bit apprehensive since it's only been out for such a short time > and i am not good enough to sort out a problem should it occur during > upgrade to SP2 > > Still need to do lots of homework before i attempt that. > > thanks so much for your help ! > ;-) > > > "Ben Winzenz [Exchange MVP]" <ben_winzenz@nospamdotmessageonedotcom> wrote > in message news:O2mcxF86FHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> Deleted items don't get purged immediately. You have to wait for: >> >> 1) The Deleted Items Retention period to pass. If yours is set to 30 >> days, you can run eseutil all you want but you won't reclaim any space. >> 2) Online maintenance has run. Once your DIR period has passed, Online >> maintenance identifies and purges those items that are past the policy >> and also generates the 1221 information event that tells you how much >> white space exists. >> >> Can you apply SP2 for Exchange 2003? It allows you to increase the >> database limit up to 75GB in Standard. It's been out for almost a month >> now. >> http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/search.aspx?q=sp2&p=1 >> >> -- >> Ben Winzenz >> Exchange MVP >> MessageOne >> >> >> "Seth_Gecko" <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote in message >> news:dlitc3$c8g$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net... >>> Hi >>> >>> Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP >>> >>> Have about 200 Mailboxes. >>> The store dismounted today. >>> >>> I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully >>> Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store >>> and get users up and running. >>> >>> I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive >>> Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB >>> >>> Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old >>> mailboxes >>> the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size >>> didnt change >>> significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more >>> mail that that was deleted or archived. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong ? >>> >>> Thanks ! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:44:03 +0200, "Seth_Gecko"
<sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote: Show quote >Hi Apply sp2 and the appropriate reg tweak and increasse the max store> >Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP > >Have about 200 Mailboxes. >The store dismounted today. > >I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully >Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store >and get users up and running. > >I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive >Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB > >Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old >mailboxes >the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size >didnt change >significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more mail >that that was deleted or archived. > >What am I doing wrong ? > >Thanks ! > capacity to 75GB. or http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828070 "Exchange Server Mailbox Store does not mount when the Mailbox Store database reaches the 16-GB limit" and then: Set Deleted Item Retention to 0, send set IS Maintenance to run all the time and check events 1221 in the app log to see how much free space is avail. Show quote > > okay great thanks Andy for confirming what Ben said about changing the DIR
to 0 days ! geeez i feel a heck of alot better now. i have hope ! heheheheh also i copied the priv1 twins to a backup server before tonights maintenance runs in case i get crap for deleted mailboxes having set it ot 0 so i guess i'm safe for now ;-) Show quote "Andy David - MVP" <ada***@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in message news:3gupn1lhnnstl2tbepp6lamotkm92osuli@4ax.com... > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:44:03 +0200, "Seth_Gecko" > <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote: > >>Hi >> >>Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP >> >>Have about 200 Mailboxes. >>The store dismounted today. >> >>I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully >>Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store >>and get users up and running. >> >>I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive >>Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB >> >>Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old >>mailboxes >>the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size >>didnt change >>significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more >>that that was deleted or archived. >> >>What am I doing wrong ? >> >>Thanks ! >> > > > Apply sp2 and the appropriate reg tweak and increasse the max store > capacity to 75GB. > > or > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828070 > "Exchange Server Mailbox Store does not mount when the Mailbox Store > database reaches the 16-GB limit" > > and then: Set Deleted Item Retention to 0, send set IS Maintenance to > run all the time and check events 1221 in the app log to see how much > free space is avail. > >> >> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:12:12 +0200, "Seth_Gecko"
<sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote: >okay great thanks Andy for confirming what Ben said about changing the DIR Very smart plan!>to 0 days ! > >geeez i feel a heck of alot better now. > >i have hope ! >heheheheh > > >also i copied the priv1 twins to a backup server before tonights maintenance >runs in case Show quote >i get crap for deleted mailboxes having set it ot 0 > >so i guess i'm safe for now ;-) > > >"Andy David - MVP" <ada***@pleasekeepinngcheesebucket.com> wrote in message >news:3gupn1lhnnstl2tbepp6lamotkm92osuli@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:44:03 +0200, "Seth_Gecko" >> <sethge***@webmail.co.za> wrote: >> >>>Hi >>> >>>Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP >>> >>>Have about 200 Mailboxes. >>>The store dismounted today. >>> >>>I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully >>>Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store >>>and get users up and running. >>> >>>I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive >>>Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB >>> >>>Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old >>>mailboxes >>>the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size >>>didnt change >>>significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more >>>that that was deleted or archived. >>> >>>What am I doing wrong ? >>> >>>Thanks ! >>> >> >> >> Apply sp2 and the appropriate reg tweak and increasse the max store >> capacity to 75GB. >> >> or >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=828070 >> "Exchange Server Mailbox Store does not mount when the Mailbox Store >> database reaches the 16-GB limit" >> >> and then: Set Deleted Item Retention to 0, send set IS Maintenance to >> run all the time and check events 1221 in the app log to see how much >> free space is avail. >> >>> >>> > Hi, we had exactly the same issue.
You need to set the deleted items retention period to a lower setting. We set our's to zero. It will work, however not until the deleted items retention period has been reached. For example, if you delete the mail from the mailboxes on Thursday, and you're deleted items retention period is 3 days, the space won't be freed up until Saturday. Hope this helps. Neil Seth_Gecko wrote:
Show quote > Hi Go ahead and install SP2 - my company and i have installed it in many > > Running Exchange2003 SP1 on WinServer2003 no SP > > Have about 200 Mailboxes. > The store dismounted today. > > I ran ESEUTIL /d and it completed successfully > Only freed up about 300MB space but was enought to remount store > and get users up and running. > > I immediately went around and started forcing some users to archive > Biggest mailbox was 1GB, the next 10 ranged between 300 and 800MB > > Despite several bigger users archiving and me deleting and purging old > mailboxes > the priv1.edb size wont decrease. I ran a second offline defrag but size > didnt change > significantly except for maybe 200MB, but i'm sure a heck of a lot more mail > that that was deleted or archived. > > What am I doing wrong ? > > Thanks ! > > > > places and it hasn't caused any problems. Read up here to do the magic regedits: http://www.petri.co.il/change_store_size_limits_ex2003_sp2.htm -- Sincerely, Daniel S. Tate, MCSA+Messaging, Sun Certified Security, Network and Systems Administrator  
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