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Author
10 Sep 2007 6:14 PM
Kelvin Beaton
We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner wants a
Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have access to his email
while on the road.

I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the Exchange
Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they can access the system.

It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the software to
access our Exchange Server built in.

Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for mobile users...

Thanks

Kelvin

Author
12 Sep 2007 4:38 PM
Mike Cook
Kelvin

You are correct, there is additional components required.

When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry Enterprise
server component to support your mobile users.  That is a piece of software
that resides on a SEPARATE server and has to talk with a SQL 2000 or SQL
2005 backend database.

If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the Exchange
Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device to handle the
communication.

I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the service in
Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were pretty much unmanageable
when running Exchange 2003.  With the Blackberry, you get some pretty
impressive tools to ensure device security and enforce IT policies.

My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that the hardware
is better, not that the administrative functions are easier, but because
when you get an attachment to an email, you open it in the Pocket version of
the application it was authored in.  With Blackberry, all of the attachments
must be converted on the Blackberry server, then streamed to the client
device.  The attachment service adds overhead on the Blackberry server, if
you go down that route, buy large.

On a side note, the Blackberry support team is excellent, if a little
expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with has been
resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product, unlike calling
Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per phone call.


<Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
Show quote
news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner wants a
> Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have access to his
> email while on the road.
>
> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the Exchange
> Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they can access the
> system.
>
> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the software to
> access our Exchange Server built in.
>
> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for mobile
> users...
>
> Thanks
>
> Kelvin
>
Author
13 Sep 2007 3:21 PM
John Schmidt
Actually, (at least with Exchange 2003), there is another option for
Blackberry use without getting a complete Blackberry server component. They
make a utility that can be loaded on the users regular office computer,
(that must remain turned on), that will "push" Exchange emails out to the
Blackberry as they arrive at the computer. While this will allow instant
access to emails, (like direct push with WM 5 or 6), the user still has to
physically connect the Blackberry to his computer to synchronize contacts,
etc.

John

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"Mike Cook" <mc***@jkmoving.com> wrote in message
news:917E1C1B-3573-44DA-87F9-13C3D58D661A@microsoft.com...
> Kelvin
>
> You are correct, there is additional components required.
>
> When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry Enterprise
> server component to support your mobile users.  That is a piece of
> software that resides on a SEPARATE server and has to talk with a SQL 2000
> or SQL 2005 backend database.
>
> If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the Exchange
> Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device to handle the
> communication.
>
> I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the service
> in Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were pretty much
> unmanageable when running Exchange 2003.  With the Blackberry, you get
> some pretty impressive tools to ensure device security and enforce IT
> policies.
>
> My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that the
> hardware is better, not that the administrative functions are easier, but
> because when you get an attachment to an email, you open it in the Pocket
> version of the application it was authored in.  With Blackberry, all of
> the attachments must be converted on the Blackberry server, then streamed
> to the client device.  The attachment service adds overhead on the
> Blackberry server, if you go down that route, buy large.
>
> On a side note, the Blackberry support team is excellent, if a little
> expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with has been
> resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product, unlike calling
> Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per phone call.
>
>
> <Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
> news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner wants a
>> Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have access to his
>> email while on the road.
>>
>> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the Exchange
>> Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they can access the
>> system.
>>
>> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the software to
>> access our Exchange Server built in.
>>
>> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for mobile
>> users...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kelvin
>>
Author
15 Sep 2007 4:37 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
John Schmidt <johnaec@-nospam-pacbell.net> wrote:
> Actually, (at least with Exchange 2003), there is another option for
> Blackberry use without getting a complete Blackberry server
> component. They make a utility that can be loaded on the users
> regular office computer, (that must remain turned on), that will
> "push" Exchange emails out to the Blackberry as they arrive at the
> computer. While this will allow instant access to emails, (like
> direct push with WM 5 or 6), the user still has to physically connect
> the Blackberry to his computer to synchronize contacts, etc.

True, but I really don't recommend this....it doesn't work reliably, it
requires that the user stay logged in all the time, and it can't be
centrally managed. It's suitable for a home user, but I wouldn't use it in
corporate environment.

The *other* option (also clumsy) would be the Blackberry Internet
Service/Web Client, which can act as a proxy for OWA. It won't do anything
for contacts/calendars/tasks/notes, but for limited email, it'll work.

The right way to do this is BES, or a Windows Mobile device.
Show quote
>
> John
>
> "Mike Cook" <mc***@jkmoving.com> wrote in message
> news:917E1C1B-3573-44DA-87F9-13C3D58D661A@microsoft.com...
>> Kelvin
>>
>> You are correct, there is additional components required.
>>
>> When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry
>> Enterprise server component to support your mobile users.  That is a
>> piece of software that resides on a SEPARATE server and has to talk
>> with a SQL 2000 or SQL 2005 backend database.
>>
>> If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the
>> Exchange Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device to
>> handle the communication.
>>
>> I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the
>> service in Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were pretty
>> much unmanageable when running Exchange 2003.  With the Blackberry,
>> you get some pretty impressive tools to ensure device security and
>> enforce IT policies.
>>
>> My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that the
>> hardware is better, not that the administrative functions are
>> easier, but because when you get an attachment to an email, you open
>> it in the Pocket version of the application it was authored in. With
>> Blackberry, all of the attachments must be converted on the
>> Blackberry server, then streamed to the client device.  The
>> attachment service adds overhead on the Blackberry server, if you go
>> down that route, buy large. On a side note, the Blackberry support team
>> is excellent, if a little
>> expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with
>> has been resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product,
>> unlike calling Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per phone
>> call. <Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
>> news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner
>>> wants a Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have
>>> access to his email while on the road.
>>>
>>> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the
>>> Exchange Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they can
>>> access the system.
>>>
>>> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the
>>> software to access our Exchange Server built in.
>>>
>>> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for mobile
>>> users...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Kelvin
Author
17 Sep 2007 2:38 PM
John Schmidt
I don't like it either, but while we have a dozen Treo 750's working just
fine with WM5 and ActiveSync, we have one manager who insisted on having a
Blackberry, and I'm not going to contract a Blackberry Server for just one
user!

John

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
Show quote
news:eMJU3f79HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> True, but I really don't recommend this....it doesn't work reliably, it
> requires that the user stay logged in all the time, and it can't be
> centrally managed. It's suitable for a home user, but I wouldn't use it in
> corporate environment.
>
> The *other* option (also clumsy) would be the Blackberry Internet
> Service/Web Client, which can act as a proxy for OWA. It won't do anything
> for contacts/calendars/tasks/notes, but for limited email, it'll work.
>
> The right way to do this is BES, or a Windows Mobile device.
>>
>> John
>>
>> "Mike Cook" <mc***@jkmoving.com> wrote in message
>> news:917E1C1B-3573-44DA-87F9-13C3D58D661A@microsoft.com...
>>> Kelvin
>>>
>>> You are correct, there is additional components required.
>>>
>>> When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry
>>> Enterprise server component to support your mobile users.  That is a
>>> piece of software that resides on a SEPARATE server and has to talk
>>> with a SQL 2000 or SQL 2005 backend database.
>>>
>>> If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the
>>> Exchange Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device to
>>> handle the communication.
>>>
>>> I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the
>>> service in Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were pretty
>>> much unmanageable when running Exchange 2003.  With the Blackberry,
>>> you get some pretty impressive tools to ensure device security and
>>> enforce IT policies.
>>>
>>> My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that the
>>> hardware is better, not that the administrative functions are
>>> easier, but because when you get an attachment to an email, you open
>>> it in the Pocket version of the application it was authored in. With
>>> Blackberry, all of the attachments must be converted on the
>>> Blackberry server, then streamed to the client device.  The
>>> attachment service adds overhead on the Blackberry server, if you go
>>> down that route, buy large. On a side note, the Blackberry support team
>>> is excellent, if a little
>>> expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with
>>> has been resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product,
>>> unlike calling Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per phone
>>> call. <Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
>>> news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner
>>>> wants a Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have
>>>> access to his email while on the road.
>>>>
>>>> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the
>>>> Exchange Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they can
>>>> access the system.
>>>>
>>>> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the
>>>> software to access our Exchange Server built in.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for mobile
>>>> users...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Kelvin
>
>
>
Author
17 Sep 2007 2:43 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
John Schmidt <johnaec@-nospam-pacbell.net> wrote:
> I don't like it either, but while we have a dozen Treo 750's working
> just fine with WM5 and ActiveSync, we have one manager who insisted
> on having a Blackberry, and I'm not going to contract a Blackberry
> Server for just one user!

You can get a BES license included for 1 user, I think. But yeah, I know
what you mean. I'd still use the web connect option rather than the desktop
redirector, tho.
Show quote
>
> John
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:eMJU3f79HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> True, but I really don't recommend this....it doesn't work reliably,
>> it requires that the user stay logged in all the time, and it can't
>> be centrally managed. It's suitable for a home user, but I wouldn't
>> use it in corporate environment.
>>
>> The *other* option (also clumsy) would be the Blackberry Internet
>> Service/Web Client, which can act as a proxy for OWA. It won't do
>> anything for contacts/calendars/tasks/notes, but for limited email,
>> it'll work. The right way to do this is BES, or a Windows Mobile device.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Mike Cook" <mc***@jkmoving.com> wrote in message
>>> news:917E1C1B-3573-44DA-87F9-13C3D58D661A@microsoft.com...
>>>> Kelvin
>>>>
>>>> You are correct, there is additional components required.
>>>>
>>>> When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry
>>>> Enterprise server component to support your mobile users.  That is
>>>> a piece of software that resides on a SEPARATE server and has to
>>>> talk with a SQL 2000 or SQL 2005 backend database.
>>>>
>>>> If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the
>>>> Exchange Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device
>>>> to handle the communication.
>>>>
>>>> I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the
>>>> service in Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were
>>>> pretty much unmanageable when running Exchange 2003.  With the
>>>> Blackberry, you get some pretty impressive tools to ensure device
>>>> security and enforce IT policies.
>>>>
>>>> My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that the
>>>> hardware is better, not that the administrative functions are
>>>> easier, but because when you get an attachment to an email, you
>>>> open it in the Pocket version of the application it was authored
>>>> in. With Blackberry, all of the attachments must be converted on
>>>> the Blackberry server, then streamed to the client device.  The
>>>> attachment service adds overhead on the Blackberry server, if you
>>>> go down that route, buy large. On a side note, the Blackberry
>>>> support team is excellent, if a little
>>>> expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with
>>>> has been resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product,
>>>> unlike calling Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per phone
>>>> call. <Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
>>>> news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner
>>>>> wants a Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have
>>>>> access to his email while on the road.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the
>>>>> Exchange Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they can
>>>>> access the system.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the
>>>>> software to access our Exchange Server built in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for
>>>>> mobile users...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Kelvin
Author
1 Oct 2007 5:50 PM
John Schmidt
Well, we're up to six Blackberrys now, so the Small Business Edition of
Blackberry Server for Exchange is on its way. Any tips for a Blackberry
neophyte? Installation and administration is up to me...(this in addition to
to our existing Treo 750/WM5 units).

John

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message
Show quote
news:umyk6mT%23HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> John Schmidt <johnaec@-nospam-pacbell.net> wrote:
>> I don't like it either, but while we have a dozen Treo 750's working
>> just fine with WM5 and ActiveSync, we have one manager who insisted
>> on having a Blackberry, and I'm not going to contract a Blackberry
>> Server for just one user!
>
> You can get a BES license included for 1 user, I think. But yeah, I know
> what you mean. I'd still use the web connect option rather than the
> desktop redirector, tho.
>>
>> John
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:eMJU3f79HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> True, but I really don't recommend this....it doesn't work reliably,
>>> it requires that the user stay logged in all the time, and it can't
>>> be centrally managed. It's suitable for a home user, but I wouldn't
>>> use it in corporate environment.
>>>
>>> The *other* option (also clumsy) would be the Blackberry Internet
>>> Service/Web Client, which can act as a proxy for OWA. It won't do
>>> anything for contacts/calendars/tasks/notes, but for limited email,
>>> it'll work. The right way to do this is BES, or a Windows Mobile device.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Cook" <mc***@jkmoving.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:917E1C1B-3573-44DA-87F9-13C3D58D661A@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Kelvin
>>>>>
>>>>> You are correct, there is additional components required.
>>>>>
>>>>> When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry
>>>>> Enterprise server component to support your mobile users.  That is
>>>>> a piece of software that resides on a SEPARATE server and has to
>>>>> talk with a SQL 2000 or SQL 2005 backend database.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the
>>>>> Exchange Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device
>>>>> to handle the communication.
>>>>>
>>>>> I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the
>>>>> service in Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were
>>>>> pretty much unmanageable when running Exchange 2003.  With the
>>>>> Blackberry, you get some pretty impressive tools to ensure device
>>>>> security and enforce IT policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that the
>>>>> hardware is better, not that the administrative functions are
>>>>> easier, but because when you get an attachment to an email, you
>>>>> open it in the Pocket version of the application it was authored
>>>>> in. With Blackberry, all of the attachments must be converted on
>>>>> the Blackberry server, then streamed to the client device.  The
>>>>> attachment service adds overhead on the Blackberry server, if you
>>>>> go down that route, buy large. On a side note, the Blackberry
>>>>> support team is excellent, if a little
>>>>> expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with
>>>>> has been resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product,
>>>>> unlike calling Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per phone
>>>>> call. <Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner
>>>>>> wants a Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have
>>>>>> access to his email while on the road.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the
>>>>>> Exchange Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they can
>>>>>> access the system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the
>>>>>> software to access our Exchange Server built in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for
>>>>>> mobile users...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kelvin
>
>
>
Author
1 Oct 2007 11:14 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
John Schmidt <johnaec@-nospam-pacbell.net> wrote:
> Well, we're up to six Blackberrys now, so the Small Business Edition
> of Blackberry Server for Exchange is on its way. Any tips for a
> Blackberry neophyte? Installation and administration is up to
> me...(this in addition to to our existing Treo 750/WM5 units).

I'd personally want this on its own server. I think BB now *supports* it if
you run it on your Exchange box, but it's still not what I'd want.

Show quote
>
> John
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:umyk6mT%23HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> John Schmidt <johnaec@-nospam-pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> I don't like it either, but while we have a dozen Treo 750's working
>>> just fine with WM5 and ActiveSync, we have one manager who insisted
>>> on having a Blackberry, and I'm not going to contract a Blackberry
>>> Server for just one user!
>>
>> You can get a BES license included for 1 user, I think. But yeah, I
>> know what you mean. I'd still use the web connect option rather than
>> the desktop redirector, tho.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:eMJU3f79HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> True, but I really don't recommend this....it doesn't work
>>>> reliably, it requires that the user stay logged in all the time, and it
>>>> can't
>>>> be centrally managed. It's suitable for a home user, but I wouldn't
>>>> use it in corporate environment.
>>>>
>>>> The *other* option (also clumsy) would be the Blackberry Internet
>>>> Service/Web Client, which can act as a proxy for OWA. It won't do
>>>> anything for contacts/calendars/tasks/notes, but for limited email,
>>>> it'll work. The right way to do this is BES, or a Windows Mobile
>>>> device.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Cook" <mc***@jkmoving.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:917E1C1B-3573-44DA-87F9-13C3D58D661A@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Kelvin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are correct, there is additional components required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry
>>>>>> Enterprise server component to support your mobile users.  That
>>>>>> is a piece of software that resides on a SEPARATE server and has
>>>>>> to talk with a SQL 2000 or SQL 2005 backend database.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the
>>>>>> Exchange Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device
>>>>>> to handle the communication.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the
>>>>>> service in Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were
>>>>>> pretty much unmanageable when running Exchange 2003.  With the
>>>>>> Blackberry, you get some pretty impressive tools to ensure device
>>>>>> security and enforce IT policies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that
>>>>>> the hardware is better, not that the administrative functions are
>>>>>> easier, but because when you get an attachment to an email, you
>>>>>> open it in the Pocket version of the application it was authored
>>>>>> in. With Blackberry, all of the attachments must be converted on
>>>>>> the Blackberry server, then streamed to the client device.  The
>>>>>> attachment service adds overhead on the Blackberry server, if you
>>>>>> go down that route, buy large. On a side note, the Blackberry
>>>>>> support team is excellent, if a little
>>>>>> expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with
>>>>>> has been resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product,
>>>>>> unlike calling Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per
>>>>>> phone call. <Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner
>>>>>>> wants a Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have
>>>>>>> access to his email while on the road.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the
>>>>>>> Exchange Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they
>>>>>>> can access the system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the
>>>>>>> software to access our Exchange Server built in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for
>>>>>>> mobile users...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kelvin
Author
19 Oct 2007 5:41 PM
Asher_N
Show quote
"John Schmidt" <johnaec@-nospam-pacbell.net> wrote in
news:#QGfNPFBIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> Well, we're up to six Blackberrys now, so the Small Business Edition
> of Blackberry Server for Exchange is on its way. Any tips for a
> Blackberry neophyte? Installation and administration is up to
> me...(this in addition to to our existing Treo 750/WM5 units).
>
> John
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:umyk6mT%23HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> John Schmidt <johnaec@-nospam-pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> I don't like it either, but while we have a dozen Treo 750's working
>>> just fine with WM5 and ActiveSync, we have one manager who insisted
>>> on having a Blackberry, and I'm not going to contract a Blackberry
>>> Server for just one user!
>>
>> You can get a BES license included for 1 user, I think. But yeah, I
>> know what you mean. I'd still use the web connect option rather than
>> the desktop redirector, tho.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:eMJU3f79HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> True, but I really don't recommend this....it doesn't work
>>>> reliably, it requires that the user stay logged in all the time,
>>>> and it can't be centrally managed. It's suitable for a home user,
>>>> but I wouldn't use it in corporate environment.
>>>>
>>>> The *other* option (also clumsy) would be the Blackberry Internet
>>>> Service/Web Client, which can act as a proxy for OWA. It won't do
>>>> anything for contacts/calendars/tasks/notes, but for limited email,
>>>> it'll work. The right way to do this is BES, or a Windows Mobile
>>>> device.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Cook" <mc***@jkmoving.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:917E1C1B-3573-44DA-87F9-13C3D58D661A@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Kelvin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are correct, there is additional components required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When dealing with Blackberry, you have to get the Blackberry
>>>>>> Enterprise server component to support your mobile users.  That
>>>>>> is a piece of software that resides on a SEPARATE server and has
>>>>>> to talk with a SQL 2000 or SQL 2005 backend database.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have Windows Mobile based devices, you can just use the
>>>>>> Exchange Server ActiveSync component on the Windows Mobile device
>>>>>> to handle the communication.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I run Exchange 2003, so I can't vouch for any improvements in the
>>>>>> service in Exchange 2007, but the Windows Mobile devices were
>>>>>> pretty much unmanageable when running Exchange 2003.  With the
>>>>>> Blackberry, you get some pretty impressive tools to ensure device
>>>>>> security and enforce IT policies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My personal preference is the Windows Mobile devices.  Not that
>>>>>> the hardware is better, not that the administrative functions are
>>>>>> easier, but because when you get an attachment to an email, you
>>>>>> open it in the Pocket version of the application it was authored
>>>>>> in. With Blackberry, all of the attachments must be converted on
>>>>>> the Blackberry server, then streamed to the client device.  The
>>>>>> attachment service adds overhead on the Blackberry server, if you
>>>>>> go down that route, buy large. On a side note, the Blackberry
>>>>>> support team is excellent, if a little
>>>>>> expensive.  They will not stop until the problem you call in with
>>>>>> has been resolved.  You pay per year for support on the product,
>>>>>> unlike calling Microsoft for a couple of hundred dollars per
>>>>>> phone call. <Kelvin Beaton> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uZqUaa98HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> We are getting ready to install MS Exchange 2007 and our owner
>>>>>>> wants a Blackberry so he can take his contacts with him and have
>>>>>>> access to his email while on the road.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought I had read that if Backberry user want to access the
>>>>>>> Exchange Server we'd have to buy an additional module so they
>>>>>>> can access the system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's my understanding that Windows based Smart phone have the
>>>>>>> software to access our Exchange Server built in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone shed some light on what options we will have for
>>>>>>> mobile users...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kelvin
>>
>>
>>


Load BES on it's own server if possible, certainly not of the Exchange
server. For 6 users you don't need much. I run a 12 user BES on a
standard P4 3.0Ghz, 512Mb RAM and a 40Gb disk. Just load W2K3 on it.
Make sure you load the Exchange admin tools on that server. The BES needs
to have CDO.DLL and MAPI.DLL from Exchange, and be at the same version. I
found that easiest way to do that is the load the Exchange Manager, and
apply Exchange service packs to the BES.

If you're behind a firewall, BES requires an outbound connection on port
3101 to communicate with RIM.

Other than that, it basically runs itself.

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