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Exchange 2003 to 2007 Transition plan

Author
15 Sep 2007 5:14 AM
johnny_mango
Hi there,

I was looking for some quick advice about the general steps required to
perform a transition from Exchange 2003 to 2007.
We have one Exch 2003 BE and one Exch 2003 FE, all clients with Outlook 2003.
I would like to know the general order of steps required to migrate to
Exchange 2007, with one edge transport server and the other roles on another
server.
I have heard I have to remove the FE server first.....when I install the CAS
role in Exch 2007, will it automatically be able to redirect the traffic to
the Exchange 2003 BE server, or is additional configuration required?
Will the clients automatically detect to which server to connect after I
install the mailbox server role and move the mailboxes?

Thanks in advance.

Author
16 Sep 2007 7:12 PM
Mark Arnold [MVP]
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:14:00 -0700, johnny_mango
<johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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>Hi there,
>
>I was looking for some quick advice about the general steps required to
>perform a transition from Exchange 2003 to 2007.
>We have one Exch 2003 BE and one Exch 2003 FE, all clients with Outlook 2003.
>I would like to know the general order of steps required to migrate to
>Exchange 2007, with one edge transport server and the other roles on another
>server.
>I have heard I have to remove the FE server first.....when I install the CAS
>role in Exch 2007, will it automatically be able to redirect the traffic to
>the Exchange 2003 BE server, or is additional configuration required?
>Will the clients automatically detect to which server to connect after I
>install the mailbox server role and move the mailboxes?
>
>Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure I'd go with the Edge, given that you want to put the
other roles on one box. I'd be far happier running the CAS/HT on one
box and the MB on the other.
If you don't have the option then the Edge is the last box to go in,
since you have to make a subscription for it.
SO, bring the CAS/HT up (with or without the mailbox) and then yes,
point the users to that once you've done all your testing with sample
mailboxes etc.
Then migrate away.
Author
17 Sep 2007 4:34 AM
johnny_mango
Thanks for your reply.

Yes, you give some good advice with separating the mailbox role. The clients
have to be manually redirected to the new mailbox server? I understood that
their user account in AD has an attribute which will indicate their new
mailbox server upon migrating their inbox to another server....
Speaking of migrating mailboxes, which methos would be fastest: extract and
import their data using ExMerge, or with the mailbox move wizard? I am
talking of around 500 mailboxes.

Thanks!

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"Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:14:00 -0700, johnny_mango
> <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I was looking for some quick advice about the general steps required to
> >perform a transition from Exchange 2003 to 2007.
> >We have one Exch 2003 BE and one Exch 2003 FE, all clients with Outlook 2003.
> >I would like to know the general order of steps required to migrate to
> >Exchange 2007, with one edge transport server and the other roles on another
> >server.
> >I have heard I have to remove the FE server first.....when I install the CAS
> >role in Exch 2007, will it automatically be able to redirect the traffic to
> >the Exchange 2003 BE server, or is additional configuration required?
> >Will the clients automatically detect to which server to connect after I
> >install the mailbox server role and move the mailboxes?
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
>
> I'm not sure I'd go with the Edge, given that you want to put the
> other roles on one box. I'd be far happier running the CAS/HT on one
> box and the MB on the other.
> If you don't have the option then the Edge is the last box to go in,
> since you have to make a subscription for it.
> SO, bring the CAS/HT up (with or without the mailbox) and then yes,
> point the users to that once you've done all your testing with sample
> mailboxes etc.
> Then migrate away.
>
>
Author
17 Sep 2007 8:44 AM
Mark Arnold [MVP]
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:34:01 -0700, johnny_mango
<johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thanks for your reply.
>
>Yes, you give some good advice with separating the mailbox role. The clients
>have to be manually redirected to the new mailbox server? I understood that
>their user account in AD has an attribute which will indicate their new
>mailbox server upon migrating their inbox to another server....
>Speaking of migrating mailboxes, which methos would be fastest: extract and
>import their data using ExMerge, or with the mailbox move wizard? I am
>talking of around 500 mailboxes.

Err, do mailbox moves just like you would if you were moving from 2003
to another 2003 box.
Author
17 Sep 2007 4:12 PM
johnny_mango
Sorry if I sound idiotic, but a colleague had told me that the user´s home
mailbox server is stored as an attribute of their account in AD, thus would
not require to be redirected manually.

Let us say, for example, I had my mailbox on server1, and an administrator
moved it to server2. My Outlook pointed to server1 in my Exchange profile
before the move. After the move, would I have to manually redirect my profile
to connect to the other BE server, or is there such an attribute in my AD
account which detects the move of my mailbox and will reconfigure my Outlook
accordingly?

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"Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:34:01 -0700, johnny_mango
> <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for your reply.
> >
> >Yes, you give some good advice with separating the mailbox role. The clients
> >have to be manually redirected to the new mailbox server? I understood that
> >their user account in AD has an attribute which will indicate their new
> >mailbox server upon migrating their inbox to another server....
> >Speaking of migrating mailboxes, which methos would be fastest: extract and
> >import their data using ExMerge, or with the mailbox move wizard? I am
> >talking of around 500 mailboxes.
>
> Err, do mailbox moves just like you would if you were moving from 2003
> to another 2003 box.
>
Author
18 Sep 2007 3:54 AM
Ed Crowley [MVP]
What you're asking for is provided for in Outlook 2007 with Exchange 2007
(though implemented not precisely as you describe), but it doesn't work that
way with Exchange 2003 and earlier.  How it works is Outlook contacts the
original server, which notifies Outlook that the mailbox has moved to
another server.  Based on that notification, Outlook changes the profile and
contacts the correct server.  This is why when you're moving mailboxes off
of a server, you leave that server up and running for a couple of weeks so
everyone's Outlook automatically redirects.  If a user doesn't connect
Outlook before the old server is removed from service, then it is necessary
to manually update the profile.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

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"johnny_mango" <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:42E066D0-7E8A-4549-9922-F0B3ACFE3956@microsoft.com...
> Sorry if I sound idiotic, but a colleague had told me that the user´s home
> mailbox server is stored as an attribute of their account in AD, thus
> would
> not require to be redirected manually.
>
> Let us say, for example, I had my mailbox on server1, and an administrator
> moved it to server2. My Outlook pointed to server1 in my Exchange profile
> before the move. After the move, would I have to manually redirect my
> profile
> to connect to the other BE server, or is there such an attribute in my AD
> account which detects the move of my mailbox and will reconfigure my
> Outlook
> accordingly?
>
> "Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:34:01 -0700, johnny_mango
>> <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks for your reply.
>> >
>> >Yes, you give some good advice with separating the mailbox role. The
>> >clients
>> >have to be manually redirected to the new mailbox server? I understood
>> >that
>> >their user account in AD has an attribute which will indicate their new
>> >mailbox server upon migrating their inbox to another server....
>> >Speaking of migrating mailboxes, which methos would be fastest: extract
>> >and
>> >import their data using ExMerge, or with the mailbox move wizard? I am
>> >talking of around 500 mailboxes.
>>
>> Err, do mailbox moves just like you would if you were moving from 2003
>> to another 2003 box.
>>
Author
18 Sep 2007 5:00 AM
johnny_mango
Thanks, that´s exactly what I was looking for :o)

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"Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:

> What you're asking for is provided for in Outlook 2007 with Exchange 2007
> (though implemented not precisely as you describe), but it doesn't work that
> way with Exchange 2003 and earlier.  How it works is Outlook contacts the
> original server, which notifies Outlook that the mailbox has moved to
> another server.  Based on that notification, Outlook changes the profile and
> contacts the correct server.  This is why when you're moving mailboxes off
> of a server, you leave that server up and running for a couple of weeks so
> everyone's Outlook automatically redirects.  If a user doesn't connect
> Outlook before the old server is removed from service, then it is necessary
> to manually update the profile.
> --
> Ed Crowley
> MVP - Exchange
> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>
> "johnny_mango" <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:42E066D0-7E8A-4549-9922-F0B3ACFE3956@microsoft.com...
> > Sorry if I sound idiotic, but a colleague had told me that the user´s home
> > mailbox server is stored as an attribute of their account in AD, thus
> > would
> > not require to be redirected manually.
> >
> > Let us say, for example, I had my mailbox on server1, and an administrator
> > moved it to server2. My Outlook pointed to server1 in my Exchange profile
> > before the move. After the move, would I have to manually redirect my
> > profile
> > to connect to the other BE server, or is there such an attribute in my AD
> > account which detects the move of my mailbox and will reconfigure my
> > Outlook
> > accordingly?
> >
> > "Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:34:01 -0700, johnny_mango
> >> <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thanks for your reply.
> >> >
> >> >Yes, you give some good advice with separating the mailbox role. The
> >> >clients
> >> >have to be manually redirected to the new mailbox server? I understood
> >> >that
> >> >their user account in AD has an attribute which will indicate their new
> >> >mailbox server upon migrating their inbox to another server....
> >> >Speaking of migrating mailboxes, which methos would be fastest: extract
> >> >and
> >> >import their data using ExMerge, or with the mailbox move wizard? I am
> >> >talking of around 500 mailboxes.
> >>
> >> Err, do mailbox moves just like you would if you were moving from 2003
> >> to another 2003 box.
> >>
>
>
>
Author
18 Sep 2007 9:50 PM
Ed Crowley [MVP]
Happy to have helped.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"

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"johnny_mango" <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:94718242-0060-4DA2-8FB1-C1DDB26F88D9@microsoft.com...
> Thanks, that´s exactly what I was looking for :o)
>
> "Ed Crowley [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> What you're asking for is provided for in Outlook 2007 with Exchange 2007
>> (though implemented not precisely as you describe), but it doesn't work
>> that
>> way with Exchange 2003 and earlier.  How it works is Outlook contacts the
>> original server, which notifies Outlook that the mailbox has moved to
>> another server.  Based on that notification, Outlook changes the profile
>> and
>> contacts the correct server.  This is why when you're moving mailboxes
>> off
>> of a server, you leave that server up and running for a couple of weeks
>> so
>> everyone's Outlook automatically redirects.  If a user doesn't connect
>> Outlook before the old server is removed from service, then it is
>> necessary
>> to manually update the profile.
>> --
>> Ed Crowley
>> MVP - Exchange
>> "Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
>>
>> "johnny_mango" <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:42E066D0-7E8A-4549-9922-F0B3ACFE3956@microsoft.com...
>> > Sorry if I sound idiotic, but a colleague had told me that the user´s
>> > home
>> > mailbox server is stored as an attribute of their account in AD, thus
>> > would
>> > not require to be redirected manually.
>> >
>> > Let us say, for example, I had my mailbox on server1, and an
>> > administrator
>> > moved it to server2. My Outlook pointed to server1 in my Exchange
>> > profile
>> > before the move. After the move, would I have to manually redirect my
>> > profile
>> > to connect to the other BE server, or is there such an attribute in my
>> > AD
>> > account which detects the move of my mailbox and will reconfigure my
>> > Outlook
>> > accordingly?
>> >
>> > "Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:34:01 -0700, johnny_mango
>> >> <johnnyma***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Thanks for your reply.
>> >> >
>> >> >Yes, you give some good advice with separating the mailbox role. The
>> >> >clients
>> >> >have to be manually redirected to the new mailbox server? I
>> >> >understood
>> >> >that
>> >> >their user account in AD has an attribute which will indicate their
>> >> >new
>> >> >mailbox server upon migrating their inbox to another server....
>> >> >Speaking of migrating mailboxes, which methos would be fastest:
>> >> >extract
>> >> >and
>> >> >import their data using ExMerge, or with the mailbox move wizard? I
>> >> >am
>> >> >talking of around 500 mailboxes.
>> >>
>> >> Err, do mailbox moves just like you would if you were moving from 2003
>> >> to another 2003 box.
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

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